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Author Topic: Is Moto X a Mid-Range phone for the Middle Class or a high end phone?  (Read 3444 times)

Offline Motox

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Google Chairman hints that Moto X will be a smartphone for the middle classes and so do tech enthousiasts that that see the phone lagging in CPU and display specs. However, Motorola CEO and engineers defend Moto X as a high end phone that focuses on total user experience with new software features rather than aiming at satisfying the spec nerds.

Any views on that??



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I think depends on your definition of high end.

Someone gave the example of comparing the moto x to galaxy s4 is like comparing Tesla S to a v8 Ford Mustang.

In the above which car is better? Both go fast (0 to 60 in under 6 seconds), both go the same distance (roughly 300 miles per charge / tank) and both look cool (my opinion anyway).

But they are not even remotely the same thing (I'm excluding price for the sake if argument).

So from everything that I read comparing only the dual processor (which is for apps) to other phones processor( quad and up) yes it's mid range. But the moto x has additional processors handling other operations(x8 platform).

I'm starting to agree that high end isn't all about specs but how the phone works.

If at the end off the day your phone renders a webpage in under 4 seconds who cares how many cores it has. To me high end means it did all the work I ask it to with low or no lag. It stays charged all day and it can run the same apps as the other phones. What's under the hood matters but if it accomplishes same thing who cares.

Now this is based on reviews not personal experience so the jury is out till I actually see the thing in action.

But I do think consumer perception of stats /specs don't tell the full story.

My wife had a Samsung infuse which worked just as well on a single core as my dual core phone. So it didn't matter then either.

Just my $2.22.


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I'm not sure where this idea of 'middle class' came in as related to the Moto X but I don't think it has anything to do with it.  Look at the iPhone, which although really containing mid-range specs caters to what is perceived as an 'elite' or 'upper class' audience.   I think a better way to classify users is between those that are tech literate and those that are not and those that may look at their phone as another 'accessory' to their lives that they can customize to reflect their personality...and those that don't care about such a thing.

I believe Motorola and Google are trying to copy the iPhone business model of making the Moto X an 'easy to use' experience that is simple for non-techies to like and are trying to make the phone appeal to 'emotions' of the young and hip crowd by offering the customization options.   If you look back in history you'll remember that the original iMacs were offered in a range of colors in order to appeal to the 'hip' crowd.  Remember, colors can  have a dramatic attraction to different pesonality types.  Phones have become personal accessories for many of us and just like watches and scarves and jackets and clothes all can represent the way we think of ourselves and how others see us depending on what image we're trying to present...phones are the same. 

While a young girl might want a 'hot pink' phone, a boy a dark blue and a business man a black, more conservative look...the Moto X will be the first phone to cater to people's emotional attachment to a phone through their ability to customize the look to reflect their personality.  I think it's a brilliant idea and I'm surprised Apple didn't come up with it first.  It really has nothing to do with 'class'.   Just think about all the inner city kids that will spend all their extra money to buy a certain kind of sneaker in order to be perceived as hip or cool.  In 2013, our own personal image and 'narrative' transcends class level and the Moto X will appeal to anyone who is interested in making their phone yet another part of their personality.

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A lot of people are starting to come around to the idea that specs don't really matter that much anymore as long as the phone can do the job.  There's a reason why people don't upgrade their home PCs that frequently anymore...because it's unnecessary.  I remember a time when you'd need a new PC every year just to run the current software or games.  That's no longer true.  My 6 year old Lenovo laptop runs anything I throw at it except for perhaps a few very high end games at high resolutions.  The same is happening with phones.  Every app that is out today can basically be played or run on any Smartphone built in the past year or two.  A year from now it'll be the same.  Except for a very, very few super highly demanding games this'll probably be true for several years.   There's a reason why people buy a BMW over a Corvette even though the BMW doesn't have the horsepower of the Vette.  It's more about the nuances, the handing, the balance and drivetrain, the craftsmanship, the history of the brand, etc.  I look at the Moto X as the BMW and your 'latest and greatest high spec phone' as the Corvette.  Personally, I prefer the BMW. (which is why I drive one :)  )  But hey...if you're all about specs, then why not wait till they have a phone with a flux capacitor so you can time travel with Doc Brown and Marty McFly.  :)~
« Last Edit: August 09, 2013, 04:48:15 PM by Babyfacemagee »
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The intent of the Moto X phone isn't to create a processing spec beast, but to optimize what already exists.

Most apps are not optimized to take advantage of more than two cores at a time.  It's kind of like filling your family car with high octane fuel.  Yes, your family car will run on high octane fuel; however, your family car is not optimized to receive any benefit from it.  It would be a waste of money to spend more for no benefit.

The Moto X is taking advantage of a tried and tested Qualcomm processor S4 Pro, but further optimized it using DSP's to take care of graphics, natural language operations, and contextual awareness.

But here's the kicker, that S4 Pro processor has been tinkered with by Motorola to make firmware optimization.

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We've done additional optimizations on top of that such as optimizing the entire Linux user space to move it to an ARM instruction set, cache optimization, Dalvik just-in-time optimization, and we've changed the file system it's full hardware-software integration to deliver best-in-class performance. - Iqbal Arshad Motorola VP of Engineering


No other phone can make that claim right now.  It's completely different than slapping the S4 processor in there.  It is really a high end device.
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I'm seeing things differently with this phone.

Read about people saying , "oh, the Moto-X it's a high end phone with last year's components so how does that make it right to sell it for $200 on contract?"
I see it as being compared to what's inside phones that have come out this year and sold for the same or higher price thus making them appear to be "high end". Phones like Samsung, HTC, that have bigger screens, bigger batteries, faster SoC., ...

I was looking at going up the ladder and waiting for the HTC One to come over to VZW. Not now. Even though my HTC Rez is still my first phone and the One would have been a real leap for me, the X made me rethink differently.

If you think someone needs a reason to justify the expense of the Moto X, I couldn't imagine justifying the cost of just another ordinary phone that's no more capable than its predecessors.

Moto X will have everything I need and nothing I don't.


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Some people are absolute minimalists when it comes to their phones, so I can understand how they would want to install AOSP roms on the Moto X.  As far as I've read, the Moto X will be running with a near stock (AOSP} experience, only with the baked in optimizations.  So, from what I read, the Moto X will not have a skinned theme (i.e. Motoblur, Touchwiz, Sense).  I guess, if you don't find the Active Notifications, Contextual Awareness, and Always on Listening useful, I can see how someone would want to get rid of those.

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Re: Is Moto X a Mid-Range phone for the Middle Class or a high end phone?
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 09:40:21 AM »
Things I see wrong with that article, the iPhone is more easily obtained on some carriers than a flip phone!  Especially when they spread payments it and the support is extremely impressive. Most times if under warranty you take it to a store and they give you a new one without hassle.... 

I stored reading that first link when I got to part about how out of reach the pricing on iPhone is.. It isn't out of reach anymore... 

Plus to me or is like a status symbol to have an iPhone if your the upper class such as a doctor lawyer and such but now with pricing reasonable makes others feel just as important as the aforementioned group.

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The biggest difference is that when you get an iPhone, you get just that an iPhone (unless you get one at Gold Genie which will run you around $6K).  Sure there are cases a plenty out there to add some personalization, but that's all.  It looks like the iPhone 5c makes an attempt at adding some color; however, maybe three options.

When Moto Maker goes live for all carriers, you will be able to make your own experience to make it personal.  Also, it looks like Motorola will let users vote on future custom designs (like how they got the Pi design).  So, on that end, you get to be a part of the process.

Again, something that no other phone can offer at this time.  Sure, the iPhone is a status symbol, but the Moto X will be more of a status statement.
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Finally, a clear look at the Motorola X8 Mobile Computing System.  I saw this the other day poking around on the Motorola Website.  I was going to post it in here, but the next time I went in it was password protected.  Now it's back  :)
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Maybe the balack or white only colors of iphone came from Job's insistence in simplicity to achieve perfection in everything...Black and White being the colors all other colors come from. This, despite the fact that apple was the first that played with the color palette with the macs in the past...Maybe the conclusion was that coloring was not what would attract consumers in Apple, who knows...My personally, I loved the colored macs!!

However, no one else tried to my knowledge since then...and this makes the X phone color trial interesting...I can easily imagine girls owning 2-3-4 back cover colors switching them around based on where they plan to go tonight...Even men can choose different colors based on what phase they go through in life....This can prove to be a differentiator in the current world that smartphones became mainstream...Even the famed iphone 5c is said to have some customization options...Lets see how this played out!!